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Do you favor sharing Great Lakes water on a short-term basis to save human lives during emergencies in water impoverished areas?

Absolutely, with no exceptions.
14% (2 votes)
Yes, if…
50% (7 votes)
Maybe, depending on…
21% (3 votes)
No, except for…
0% (0 votes)
Absolutely not.
14% (2 votes)
Total votes: 14

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Response to responses about sharing

I appreciate the thoughtful way people have responded to my "absolutely not" -- but I am going to stick with absolutely not.  Here's why.

I said in my response that I cannot imagine a time when the absolute best way to get water to people in a crisis would be to use Great Lakes water.  If people are literally dying of thirst in, say, the Sahel, or the western desert in China, it has got to be cheaper and less wasteful of energy to bring them water from a closer source.  No matter what our cousins in the southwestern states claim, they are not doing to be dying of thirst anytime soon.  As long as a green golf course or splashing fountain exists in the southwest, those states have enough water not to need Great Lakes water.

A point made about a resource available to the American southwest is desalination.  Exactly so.  The burden should be on the wasteful regions to create new resources close to home, and using the ocean is a lot less damaging to other oceanside communities than using the Great Lakes would be to GL communities.  (And that's not adding in the costs of transportation.) 

In the future we will see fewer attempts at gargantuan-scale projects like, say, a Great Lakes pipeline to Arizona ... but only if there are noisy advocates for sustainable solutions. An interesting point raised in the responses is, and excuse my paraphrase, we should create our own language around the issue before it gets forced on us.  There's merit to that.  The language of sustainability will resolve this issue, and that has to be front and center in the vocabulary of GL advocacy.  Sustainability cuts several ways: it cuts across the attempts of communities to bottle GL water and sell it outside the watershed and it should slice off, at the root, attempts to move GL water under the heading of emergency planning.

Where I am coming from in my absolutely not is the sexual battleground of American womanhood!  Having been a young woman once, I know that there is no way to say no except to say no, and people often don't believe an absolutely not when they hear it anyway.  As soon as you begin to allow for "emergencies" you open the door to any fool who thinks that his rights are greater on a cosmic scale than your rights.  If an outside agency attempts to coerce the GL states into unwise use of GL water, even by calling it an emergency, it should be seen for the rape it is.

a reply to my own post

Having been such a hard-liner on this, it occurs to me to ask: tell me about a humanitarian emergency where the absolute best, most energywise solution to a water shortage would be to use GL water outside the watershed.  Since we're talking about an emergency, I am assuming something more than a truckload.

 

NthDegree's picture

No Diversion

I have to go with the "Absolutely Nots". Yes, history has shown when the have-nots want something they don't have, conflicts can arise.

We have also learned from history that when Man starts trying to control and modify the environment, there are inevitably undesirable side effects.

I will soften my response to the point that if there was a dire water shortage, I would not hesitate to provide water but only as a last resort and utilizing only water trucks, railways and such. I would never be in favor of diverting water directly. That being said, the SW states are far closer to the ocean than the Great Lakes. Desalinization has been used with great success in other countries. I see no reason why we could not do the same.

Absolute protection is the only way

Perhaps it makes me mean-spirited to vote Absolutely Not, when it comes to sharing Great Lakes water. As a user of New York City water especially, it can seem that "I've got mine!" and a lack of concern for the rest of the world.

But I cannot imagine a time when the best source of water for, say, desperate communities in the Sahel would be the Great Lakes. I can however imagine a time, and it could be just hours away, when folks in the American southwest -- the ones who are exhausting their own aquifers far faster than dreamed of even a decade ago -- claim that their need for water is desperate.

In fact, one reason I was overjoyed to have the Great Lakes Compact signed, sealed, and delivered it because it would make it that harder for Congress to vote to use Great Lakes water for the southwest. Look at the movements of population in the US over the past couple decades. Residents of the northeast and the north central states (i.e. the Great Lakes states) have flocked to the southwest.

You can joke all you want to about the last people leaving Detroit/Cleveland/Erie/Buffalo should turn out the lights -- and our southwestern cousins do just that. But there is no way settlement in that corner of the world can be sustainable, even if residents there became less profligate in their water use.

It isn't just population that has moved to the parched corner of the country -- it's political power. And we can expect even more power to move SW at the congressional redistricting following the 2010 census.

We have no reason to believe that climate change will be gentle to the Great Lakes. It may take longer for them to be affected than other places -- again, like the southwest -- but once a precedent has been set, for the use of Great Lakes water by people outside their own watershed, their fate is sealed.

Gary Wilson's picture

Sharing for Humanitarian Reasons

Thanks "Diggitt" for weighing in.

There is broad agreement for your position to not share Great Lakes water with the communities in the SW who don't live within their means. And that should also include towns that straddle the Great Lakes basin here in the region. Waukesha, Wisconsin being the most obvious example.

The issue that the question raises though is, does a circumstance exist where it would be acceptable to divert Great Lakes water in order to avert a human disaster?

The Compact says next to nothing about humanitarian needs and it makes us look greedy. I believe it also threatens the long term viability of the Compact.  

We should be pro-active and develop a plan to share water for humanitarian purposes. This will prevent someone else doing it for us under terms we may not like.

gw 

 

Matt Jones's picture

Humanitarian Need

Of course water should be shared when it comes to dire humanitarian need.  This should be qualified with the type of need and the amount of diversion.

History bears out the failure to share a resource for the overall common good usually leads to conflict.

Certainly, the Lakes should not be diverted to the extent of diminishing the necessary water resources of the Great Lakes Region.  If the diversion means shipping water off to an impending rescue, then it is probably worthwhile.  if it means watering the deserts of the world to make them habitable for the masses, then I think the answer should be "no." 

Sustainability and resource management should always be paramount in developing communities. 

 

Matt Jones

"With water, we are blessed and cursed; Both by it's excesses and our thirst" -self, 2007

Gary Wilson's picture

Lessons of History

Matt's comment about failing to share natural resources for the common good is on the mark and warrants further comment.

Having a legal right (the Compact) to water is only part of the equation. The Compact will not stand up to the pressure of pictures of dying thirsty people in water impoverished areas. It is in the best interests of the Great Lakes to be pro-active in developing a policy for sharing our water for humanitarian purposes. Otherwise someone else will do it for us.

More next week.  

Jessica Smith's picture

Yes, if . . .

I have to agree with Matt. "Saving human lives" also does not mean providing surplus water to water-starved regions to save the quality of human lives. Short-term, one-time withdrawals to alleviate an impending humanitarian or public health disaster seems like a no-brainer to me -- even if it strains the hydrology of the Basin. Watering the golf courses of desert communities to make them greener to increase tourism dollars and sustain quality of life in the region is not something I would support.